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2nd June 2005

aerospace8:38am: no more The Joy Circuit
according to The Joy Circuit's website, TJC has called it quits.


the site says starting June 1, http://www.nationalskyline.org will have [presumably answers to] our questrions. however just prior to this post, the site wasn't found.

old and new characters are promised for this project, which apparently is a follow-up to This=Everything, already underway.

in a somewhat related news event, i just saw somewhere [http://iateyourmicrophone.com] that Autolux will be touring with Nine Inch Nails and Queens of the Stone Age.
Current Mood: anxious

3rd December 2004

marijun11:22am: "new" castor and national skyline
i got some more unreleased national skyline and castor stuff for ya.



here's a bit of info about the tracks from Derek:

Castor Track 1:
One of only two surviving songs from a whole bunch of songs we recorded at home on a glorified 4-track. It was work towards a new album. We scrapped all of them and wrote what became our second album. So this song and the next were two from this group of songs.

This particular song was a remix I did secretly because Jeff didn't want the beginning vocal part in the mix. So, he's stuck with this version, because I'm pretty sure there's no versions of these any where else.

Castor Track 2:
The first 3:20 or so of this song is backwards, there are two takes that we didn't make it through before we finally got it right on the 3rd take, which starts after the two backwards takes.

Both of these songs are us set up in our house at the time, doing live takes in our band room as rough demos. This would have been around late summer/early fall 1996.

Castor Track 3:
This is a live song from a roughly the same time as the above recordings, probably later fall winter of 1996. Another song that was forgotten most likely and never made it way to any kind of demo or recording. I have a few different versions of this song from different live tapes. Each one is pretty different, which was not at all uncommon for us. Often lyrics and mood and styling were very different from night to night on any given song. This is/was one of the more amazing things about Garber, was his ability to make it work no matter what mood or frame of mind we were in.

Castor Track 4:
Same live show, Jeff explains with who. I'm pretty sure this is at Cicero's basement bar in St. Louis. One of our favorite places, that is no longer This is a live version of Miss Atlantic, which is a song that was only released as a b-side on our only 7". It has one of our famous super tight endings.

Castor Track 5:
Same live show, this song is actually on our second record, but this is an earlier version with alt lyrics and I think closer to what the song sounded like.

Castor Track 6:
One of two of the first songs we ever wrote and recorded. These were done on a 4 track in the basement of our first house together. The quality is pretty rough, but you get the idea of the song. We were so high in those days. This is probably fall/winter of 1994. This song represented our collective peak, we were in decline every day after this song was written and recorded.

National Skyline "Unreleased and Untitled 2":
Again, from the same session as the previous song. I have no idea what this song was called. I have more of these.

That's all I remember, in fact I may have made up much of this. I'm sure no one else in the band remembers either. Maybe Jeff can add some tidbits if he is poked with a stick.
Current Mood: awake

18th November 2004

marijun2:29pm: unreleased stuff
whoops, guess my old link is broken. here's a new one.


there's 2 unreleased goodies in there now. i've also got some unreleased castor stuff if anyone's interested.
Current Mood: dirty

22nd June 2004

aerospace11:11pm: Jeff Garber!!

Jeff Garber's new band. SOUNDS GOOD!!

check out the new press photo on the website.

12th June 2004

thetrojanhorse12:24pm: So,
Does anyone have any word on what is happening with National Skyline right now? Are they still in existence? Will we ever see them tour again so I could actually maybe catch them this time?

25th February 2004

strangeyez11:14pm: Hey People!
hey... I just found this community... National Skyline have one of the best sounds i've ever heard... I found some mp3's somewhere but i can't find very much of them anywhere... Does the guy from Hum sing for them or is it Jeff Garber... And I agree that Jeff should have sung more in yotr. I saw them here in dc and they blew me away. The lights, the smoke, it was like I was brought back to life or something. I know i'm crazy but I love them. Could anyone point me in the direction of more NS stuff cause i really dig them, thanks!


21st December 2003

marijun6:39am: howdy
damn, this place is dead! let's see if i can breathe some life into you...

how 'bout an unreleased national skyline song?

i shit you not. my partner derek niedringhaus (of the late NS years) has a bunch of national skyline goodies on tape. they're not studio recordings, but they're pretty good. he's got a ton of castor stuff too, as well as some other derek/garber projects from when they were in high school. at 15, jeff already had an amazing voice, wow! anyway...i'm uploading the mp3 right now. derek hasn't transferred them all yet, but i'll let you know when there's more to be had.


enjoy, all 3 of you! ;)

more info and amusing commentary from derek and jeff here: http://www.h-u-m.net/centaur/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=General;action=display;num=1055264118;start=
Current Mood: nostalgic

23rd October 2003

thetrojanhorse12:09pm: ohiogirl.
what else has he done as far as design for other projects / bands? anyone have any links?

1st July 2003

simmeringsiren12:32am: How I miss National Skyline . . . Two memories stand out for me:

#1 I still remembered when I booked them at the Kit Kat Club with The Gloria Record and they all stayed at my house that night. The show was even more incredible than I had imagined. The whole group was so down to earth and I remember all of their sleeping bags and blankets spread all over my living room floor.

#2 The first time I ever took acid (ok, I was a late bloomer), and I went to Disney all day. When I came home, my partner and I listened to National Skyline for what seemed like hours. I just had to keep listening to the cd over and over again . . . So hypnotic . . .

Haven't heard anything of the like since them . . .
Current Mood: nostalgic

18th February 2003

aerospace12:34pm: you MIGHT be interested in this

It's official. Year of the Rabbit has signed with Elektra Records. The deal was sealed just before Christmas last year. Elektra has signed what amounts to a finished album, which the band has been working on over the last nine months.

The scheduled release date for the full length LP is June 24th, with touring to begin around or before that date. There is discussion of Elektra releasing another EP in advance of the LP although this is not for sure.

Meanwhile, the band is in the studio finishing a new song for the album called "Strange Eyes" and working on the album packaging.

The band is excited to get out on the road and bring the new sound to your hometown.

aerospace4:06am: this is from the National Skyline email thing
Hello everyone,
It's been a long time since we've communicated with the outside world.
We have been so busy with The Society of Creative Anachronism, that we
have had no time for music, at least with each other.

James Minor has joined up with ex-Antarctica members Chris Donohue and
Glenn Maryansky new project ovalooven. Their debut full-length 58:27
will be released in February. More details will be announced soon.
You can keep informed by sending the ova_bot a line at

Jeff Garber has moved to sunny Los Angeles, CA to play guitar for Ken
Andrews' [Failure/On] new band Year Of The Rabbit with Tim Dow [Shiner].
Right now there is are t-shirts and an EP available through their
website [www.yearoftherabbit.net] for cyber-consumers. Expect their
full-length debut on Elektra Records in May/June.

Jeff Dimpsey is still slaving away to the machines.

[End Transmission]

9th December 2002

eremitan7:38pm: no one seems to ever post in this community. someone has got to know what's going on with the band.

any info at all is appreciated.

26th July 2002

detachme4:17pm: The Self-Starter Foundation starts itself.
Long overdue: a community dedicated to The Self-Starter Foundation and its signees. It's like an online rock show. self_starter

12th July 2002

huddlingmasses6:09pm: so err...i just noticed the founder of this community's not even a member anymore..is thing still active?

6th June 2002

faded_glimmer5:06pm: national skyline <3

30th April 2002

reinkiller12:04am: Alrighty, first real post.
I asked File 13 a few days ago if there was any news on the band, and this was the response I got back...

Spread the word, Rick.

New National Skyline CDEP out October '02.

Keep an eye on our site for more details.
reinkiller12:00am: Welcome!
Hi there!
I created this community for fans of National Skyline to discuss the band, post any news and/or substantiated or unsubstantied rumors regarding their current and former projects, status etc. So join, and post often.
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